{"id":11850,"date":"2024-04-30T15:00:53","date_gmt":"2024-04-30T19:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/?p=11850"},"modified":"2025-02-13T13:47:16","modified_gmt":"2025-02-13T18:47:16","slug":"is-this-really-the-ultimate-carry-j-frame","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/is-this-really-the-ultimate-carry-j-frame\/","title":{"rendered":"Is This Really The Ultimate Carry J-Frame?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>More than 70 years after Smith &amp; Wesson introduced their first lightweight hammerless snub nose revolver, they&#8217;ve finally released a version with modern sights, excellent grips, and a decent trigger. They&#8217;re offering it in .38 Special and (the criminally underrated) .32 H&amp;R Magnum and it&#8217;s called the Ultimate Carry J-Frame. Let&#8217;s find out if it&#8217;s any good.<\/p> <p>Details are in the video below, or keep scrolling to read the full transcript.<\/p> <div class=\"entry-content-asset\"><script src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/assets\/external\/E-v1.js\" async><\/script><\/p> <noscript class=\"idle-load\"><div class=\"wistia_responsive_padding\" style=\"padding:56.25% 0 28px 0;position:relative;\"> <div class=\"wistia_responsive_wrapper\" style=\"height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;top:0;width:100%;\"> <div class=\"wistia_embed wistia_async_6aulqhrqod dnt=1 seo=false videoFoam=true\" style=\"height:100%;position:relative;width:100%\"> <div class=\"wistia_swatch\" style=\"height:100%;left:0;opacity:0;overflow:hidden;position:absolute;top:0;transition:opacity 200ms;width:100%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/embed\/medias\/6aulqhrqod\/swatch\" style=\"filter:blur(5px);height:100%;object-fit:contain;width:100%;\" alt=\"\" aria-hidden=\"true\" onload=\"this.parentNode.style.opacity=1;\" \/><\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><\/noscript> <\/div> <hr \/> <p>Hey everybody, I am Chris Baker from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\">LuckyGunner.com<\/a> and today I\u2019m going to talk about the new Smith &amp; Wesson Ultimate Carry J-frame revolvers.<\/p> <p>These are offered exclusively by the firearms distributor <a href=\"https:\/\/lipseysguns.com\/smith-wesson-ultimate-carry-j-frame\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lipsey\u2019s<\/a>. They\u2019ve got four models to choose from. A five-shot .38 Special or a six-shot .32 H&amp;R Magnum. Both calibers have two finish options: a black finish with cherry grips or a stainless finish with gray grips. They are all based on the classic Smith &amp; Wesson Airweight design \u2013 that\u2019s an aluminum frame with a steel cylinder weighing 16.6 ounces unloaded. The MSRP for all four models is $759.<\/p> <p>Lipsey\u2019s loaned us a 432 UC for this review. That\u2019s the .32 model with the black finish. It\u2019s very similar to the gun I carry most days \u2013 an old <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/my-everyday-carry-gear-and-why-its-wrong\/\">Model 332 Ti<\/a> which has been out of production for over 20 years. So I am square in the middle of the target demographic for this gun. But you guys know I\u2019m not going to pull any punches. If this thing stinks, I\u2019ll tell you. Fortunately, it does not. This is a really good J-frame. So let\u2019s get into it.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-table.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11853\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-table.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-table.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-table-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-table-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-table-768x432.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>This project started when Lipsey\u2019s approached Smith &amp; Wesson with the idea of a J-frame with features that serious defense-minded shooters have asked about for years. They got input from Darryl Bolke and Bryan Eastridge &#8211; a couple of guys who possess a deep understanding of the fighting revolver. So this is not just marketing hype. The Ultimate Carry project is a legitimate attempt to offer the best J-Frame possible.<\/p> <p>Smith &amp; Wesson has been making J-frames since 1950. They\u2019ve produced hundreds of variants over the years. There are no fewer than 38 different J-frames in their regular catalog right now. I would not blame you for being tempted to ignore this one because\u2026 what could they possibly do with this gun that hasn\u2019t already been done?<\/p> <h3>Sights<\/h3> <p>Well, one thing they\u2019ve never done before is put decent sights on a lightweight model. They\u2019ve done proper sights on a steel gun like the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/best-j-frame-smith-wesson-model-640-pro-series\/\">640 Pro<\/a>, for example. It\u2019s an excellent shooter but it\u2019s an all steel gun and weighs over 22 ounces. It\u2019s not quite as convenient to carry as the Airweight and AirLite models.<\/p> <p>For those guns, Smith has occasionally stuck a fiber optic tube or a white dot on the front, but usually it\u2019s the traditional ramp sight. And they all have the basic shallow trench in the top strap for a rear sight.<\/p> <p>So the stand-out feature of the Ultimate Carry J-frame is the sights. In the front we have a pinned XS night sight. It\u2019s a tritium vial with a bright neon green ring around it. The black serrated U-notch rear sight sits in a (windage adjustable) dovetail cut.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-sights-2.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11854\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-sights-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-sights-2.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-sights-2-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-sights-2-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-sights-2-768x432.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>Normally, I am not crazy about U-notch rear sights or round-profile front sights. It\u2019s challenging to get a really precise sight picture with them. For a J-frame, I don\u2019t care. I just want something I can see. These are as easy to pick up as the sights on a full-size duty pistol, and that, alone, makes this gun a lot more usable than the standard off-the-shelf J-frame.<\/p> <h3>Why .32 H&amp;R Magnum?<\/h3> <p>Personally, I\u2019m just as excited about the fact that they\u2019re offering this gun in .32 H&amp;R Magnum. Before this year, no revolvers in that chambering had left the Smith &amp; Wesson factory since 2005 (unless you count the small batch of 327 Federal Magnum J-frames they did in 2009).<\/p> <p>I can\u2019t really be mad at Smith for having neglected .32 H&amp;R Magnum. It\u2019s not a popular cartridge. When I picked this gun up, the younger guy behind the counter said he had never even heard of it before. And that\u2019s really a shame. The only reason .38 Special became the default snubby cartridge is because cops wanted to use the same ammo they had for their duty guns. For the armed citizen today, .32 just makes a lot more sense in a lightweight revolver.<\/p> <p>I won\u2019t try to sell you on it today. You can just go watch the video I did a while back called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/why-the-best-snub-nose-caliber-is-32\/\">\u201cWhy the Best Snub Nose Caliber is .32\u201d<\/a>.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/cartridge-comparison-1.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11856\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/cartridge-comparison-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/cartridge-comparison-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/cartridge-comparison-1-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/cartridge-comparison-1-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/cartridge-comparison-1-768x432.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>Actually, since you\u2019re already here, I am gonna try to sell you on it. Basically, you get six shots in the cylinder instead of five. With a 2-inch barrel, the ballistics are similar to .38 Special, but with around 60-70% of the recoil. Maybe even less, depending on your ammo choice. Models chambered for .22 LR or .22 Magnum are also viable low-recoil alternatives to a .38. But because of the way rimfire ammo is designed, those revolvers always have heavier triggers. A .32 gives you low recoil and the less heavy trigger of a centerfire model.<\/p> <p>The only downside is the cost and availability of ammo. Most stores don\u2019t carry it so you pretty much have to order it online, and even then, the selection is limited. .32 H&amp;R Magnum is almost never less than a buck per round. But you can also fire .32 Short and .32 Long out of these guns. .32 Long, in particular, is relatively plentiful and reasonably priced \u2013 not like the mainstream calibers, but it\u2019s also not going to bankrupt you to buy a few hundred rounds.<\/p> <p>It used to be a very popular cartridge in the US. There are millions of revolvers out there from the 20th century chambered for .32 Long. It\u2019s still fairly common in other parts of the world. The ammo companies are not going to abandon it any time soon. So you can practice with .32 Long and carry .32 Magnum. The magnums have a little more recoil, but they feel more like a .32 +P. It\u2019s not a huge leap in recoil like .38 to .357.<\/p> <p>If you\u2019re still not sold, that\u2019s okay. That\u2019s why the Ultimate Carry J-frame also comes in .38 Special.<\/p> <h3>Grips<\/h3> <p>Okay, there are a lot of other features here, so let\u2019s keep moving. The grips: they are made from G10 by VZ Grips. G10 is a lightweight fiberglass composite material. I\u2019m very impressed with these grips. They\u2019re wide enough to get a solid grip but short enough to conceal easily.<\/p> <p>VZ makes several other grips for J-frames, but these were designed specifically for the Ultimate Carry J-frame. There\u2019s no checkering or any other aggressive texture. They\u2019re smooth, but not slick like lacquered wood. The left side is relieved a bit for using speed loaders. They are a boot grip design, meaning the bottom of the grip panels is flush with the bottom of the grip frame. They also wrap around the backstrap, which I really appreciate because that increases the trigger reach just the right amount for my hands.<\/p><p><\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/grips-front.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-3\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11857\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/grips-front.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/grips-front.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/grips-front-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/grips-front-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/grips-front-768x432.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>It\u2019s a \u201chigh horn\u201d design \u2013 this back portion goes all the way up to the top of the backstrap. A lot of grips stop right here at the cylinder latch. That means your firing hand thumb often ends up riding right on a hard edge. You can see here on these Crimson Trace grips, which I really like in general, they stop a little too low and the rubber has started peeling away because my thumb rests right on top of this top corner. Not an issue with these grips here. They also fill in this area here behind the trigger guard \u2013 that\u2019s a detail that a lot of other J-frame grips don\u2019t get quite right.<\/p> <p>Of course, grip fit is a very subjective thing. But if you fall somewhere close to the middle of the bell curve for hand size, I think these will work pretty well for you.<\/p> <h3>Trigger<\/h3> <p>No J-frame treatment would be complete without some attention to the trigger. The marketing copy says that Smith &amp; Wesson has \u201coptimized hammer &amp; trigger geometry and springs for a lighter, smoother trigger pull.\u201d I don\u2019t know exactly what they mean by optimized geometry. But this is a bit lighter and smoother than a standard J-frame. It\u2019s not as light as some of the Performance Center J-frames I\u2019ve handled in the past. It\u2019s also not quite as light as a J-frame with the Apex trigger kit installed.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-range.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-4\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11861\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-range.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"652\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-range.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-range-600x326.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-range-1024x556.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432UC-range-768x417.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>J-frame triggers also tend to vary a bit from one sample to the next, so I don\u2019t know how this one might compare to other Ultimate Carry models. If you get one of these and it\u2019s not as smooth as you\u2019d like, maybe try the Apex kit, or just dry fire it a bunch and it should smooth out to be at least a decent trigger.<\/p> <h3>Other Features<\/h3> <p>Okay, so sights, grip, trigger. Those are the areas where a snub nose typically has the most room for improvement. But they\u2019ve added a few additional touches like chamfered charge holes. That\u2019s where there\u2019s a slight bevel on the inside edge of each chamber. It helps the cartridges slide in there a little easier, especially when you\u2019re using wadcutters.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-chamfer.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-5\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11858\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-chamfer.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-chamfer.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-chamfer-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-chamfer-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/432-chamfer-768x432.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>The front of the cylinder is also beveled. That\u2019s not something you\u2019re likely to notice much if you use a kydex holster, but for something like a snug-fitting leather holster, the bevel helps the gun slide into place a little easier.<\/p> <p>And lastly, they\u2019ve made some durability improvements &#8211; specifically, the pins that hold the gun together are now titanium instead of the usual aluminum.<\/p> <h3>The Ultimate Carry J-Frame at the Range<\/h3> <p>I put about 500 rounds through this gun at the range \u2013 a mix of .32 Long and Magnum. I don\u2019t have a whole lot to report. It worked. Recoil was tame, as expected.<\/p> <p>According to Lipsey\u2019s, the sights should hit point of aim with .32 H&amp;R Mag Federal 85-grain JHP or .32 Long Buffalo Bore 100-grain wadcutters. We didn\u2019t have any of the Federal load to test, but I confirmed the zero for the Buffalo Bore. In fact, the sights were pretty much dead-on for all of the six loads I tried. There was some variation in point of impact, but at 15 yards, if I covered the center of a B8 bullseye target with the front sight dot, I could keep nearly all of my shots in the black, regardless of the ammo.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sight-picture-1.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-6\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11855\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sight-picture-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"779\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sight-picture-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sight-picture-1-600x390.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sight-picture-1-1024x665.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sight-picture-1-768x499.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>If you\u2019re more interested in the .38 version, those sights are regulated for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/38-special-plus-p-135-gr-jhp-speer-gold-dot-50-rounds\">135-grain +P Gold Dot<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/handgun\/38-special-ammo?jacket_type=479\">148-grain lead wadcutters<\/a>. That\u2019s a small but important detail. A lot of .38s will only hit point of aim if you use 158-grain loads. But wadcutters and Gold Dots are favorites among snub nose aficionados, so that\u2019s a much better zero.<\/p> <p>I did a lot of work from the holster and shot several drills with this gun. Without a doubt, these sights are far superior to not only the standard j-frame sights, but probably the factory sights on any other small frame revolver on the market.<\/p> <p>The grips exceeded my already high expectations. They\u2019re thicker and fill my hand better than most grips. It\u2019s easier to get a more consistent grip on the gun out of the holster. The G10 material lets you make micro corrections to your grip as you\u2019re getting on target. That\u2019s one of the reasons I like G10 grips on full size revolvers. Rubber is nice for a little recoil mitigation on the smaller guns, but that\u2019s not really necessary with the .32.<\/p> <p><strong>Old vs New<br \/> <\/strong><\/p> <p>I don\u2019t know if the 432 UC will replace my old 332 Ti as my everyday carry gun. The 332 has a titanium cylinder, so it\u2019s about five ounces lighter. And the trigger is nice and broken in. It\u2019s right where I want it for a J-frame. But I could really go either way. If I had to switch to the 432 for some reason, I wouldn\u2019t complain at all.<\/p> <p>Carrying a small revolver in 2024 is not for everyone. They tend to make the most sense for people at opposite ends of the skill curve &#8211; either the relatively inexperienced, or well trained and skilled shooters. The Ultimate Carry J-frames have features that shooters in either category will appreciate. They are definitely worth considering.<\/p> <p>I hope you guys enjoyed this review. If so, do me a favor and the next time you need some ammo, be sure to get it from us with lightning-fast shipping at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\">LuckyGunner.com<\/a>.<\/p> <\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>More than 70 years after Smith &amp; Wesson introduced their first lightweight hammerless snub nose revolver, they&#8217;ve finally released a &#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/is-this-really-the-ultimate-carry-j-frame\/\">Continued<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":11851,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[15,216],"tags":[47,21,364,67,78,17,174,131],"class_list":["post-11850","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-review","category-wheel-gun-wednesday","tag-concealed-carry","tag-handguns","tag-j-frame","tag-review-2","tag-revolver","tag-self-defense","tag-smith-and-wesson","tag-snub-nose"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Is This Really The Ultimate Carry J-Frame?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"S&amp;W has finally released a modernized J-frame with improved sights, excellent grips, and a decent trigger. 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