{"id":1242,"date":"2014-05-13T11:56:58","date_gmt":"2014-05-13T15:56:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/?p=1242"},"modified":"2025-03-17T13:59:35","modified_gmt":"2025-03-17T17:59:35","slug":"steel-cased-22lr","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/steel-cased-22lr\/","title":{"rendered":"Steel Cased .22LR &#038; the Shortest Ammo Test Ever"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Having been in the ammo business for over six years now, we\u2019ve seen a lot of\u2026 interesting products come through the doors at <a title=\"Lucky Gunner\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\">Lucky Gunner<\/a>. Most of the ammo we sell is newly manufactured, but sometimes we\u2019ll have a chance to pick up some military surplus or new old stock ammo. Usually, this stuff has been sitting around in a climate controlled warehouse for a number of years, and is just fine to shoot. Ammo doesn\u2019t have an expiration date, so as long as its been stored properly, it\u2019ll function as it was originally intended.<\/p> <p>But every once and a while, we\u2019ll run across something special. And not necessarily the good kind of special. One of our supply chain guys recently saw an unusual looking box of .22LR on the shelf at a local gun shop. The dude behind the counter showed him that it was Russian steel-cased ammo from the 1990s. The ammo, marked \u201cJunior\u201d in big letters on the front of the box bears the LVE logo, a Russian ammo plant that we\u2019re familiar with.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_1253\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1253\" style=\"width: 996px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-2.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1253\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-2.jpg\" alt=\"LVE Steel Cased .22LR box\" width=\"996\" height=\"607\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-2.jpg 996w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-2-600x366.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-2-768x468.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-2-350x213.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 996px) 100vw, 996px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1253\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">An unusual specimen &#8211; Russian steel cased .22LR.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>While the supply of .22LR ammo has been <a title=\"22 LR Ammo at Lucky Gunner\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/rimfire\/22-lr-ammo\">generally improving lately<\/a>, we\u2019re always looking for new sources wherever we can, so our guy bought a box of the vintage plinking ammo. If it turned out to be decent stuff, we\u2019d send our purchasing detectives out into the wild to try to track down more.<\/p> <h3>Initial Inspection<\/h3> <p>Steel cased .22LR is a rare sight in the US, although it is supposedly common in Russia and elsewhere around the globe. In general, steel cased ammo gets a lot of criticism, but not all of it is deserved. All other factors being equal, steel cased ammo will function just as well as brass cased ammo 99% of the time. The problem is that \u201call other factors\u201d are usually not equal. The problems sometimes experienced by users of steel cased ammo can often be attributed to the bullets, propellant, or load recipe used by the manufacturer, but not the steel case itself (see our <a title=\"Brass vs. Steel Cased Ammo \u2013 An Epic Torture Test\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/labs\/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo\/\">epic steel vs. brass cased ammo test<\/a> over at Lucky Gunner Labs for more).<\/p> <p>In theory, if steel cased ammo can be loaded to the same specs as brass cased ammo, it should work in most firearms. But the only way to find out if that\u2019s the case with the LVE \u201cJunior\u201d ammo, was to try it.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_1258\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1258\" style=\"width: 1015px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-7.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1258 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-7.jpg\" alt=\"LVE steel cased 22LR\" width=\"1015\" height=\"547\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-7.jpg 1015w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-7-600x323.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-7-768x414.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-7-350x189.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1015px) 100vw, 1015px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1258\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Is that a squirrel or a rabbit? Maybe a Russian mutant hybrid.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <figure id=\"attachment_1257\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1257\" style=\"width: 906px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-6.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1257\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-6.jpg\" alt=\"LVE Steel Cased .22LR ammo box\" width=\"906\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-6.jpg 906w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-6-600x346.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-6-768x442.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-6-350x202.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 906px) 100vw, 906px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1257\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wondering what to do with your .22LR ammo? Fear not, LVE has some helpful suggestions right on the box!<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>So, the 50 round box was passed along to me for testing. It does have a unique appearance, even before\u00a0opening the box to examine its contents. The graphics looked like something from an American hardware store in the 1960s, but instead it was Russian and stamped \u201c02-94\u201d on the inside (a date stamp?). The box itself was in immaculate condition, but the ammo inside had seen better days.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_1256\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1256\" style=\"width: 850px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-5.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-3\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1256 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-5.jpg\" alt=\"LVE Steel Cased .22LR stamp\" width=\"850\" height=\"612\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-5.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-5-600x432.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-5-768x553.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-5-350x252.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1256\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Is 02-94 a date stamp? I tried to get Google to translate the Russian letters, but then found there is no Russian letter &#8220;I&#8221;, so I have no idea what that means. Leave a comment if you read Russian and can help us out with that.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p><em>EDIT: Mystery solved by <a title=\"Oleg Volk\" href=\"http:\/\/www.olegvolk.net\/\">Oleg Volk<\/a>. The stamp reads &#8220;E 10-02-94&#8221; or Feb. 10, 1994. Thanks, Oleg!<\/em><\/p> <p>Despite the waxy coating on the lead round nose bullets (a common lubricant for .22LR ammo), several of them showed a white residue, an indication that the ammo may have been stored in a less than ideal location . However, the steel cases didn\u2019t seem to be in bad shape, though they did look a bit dirty.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_1255\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1255\" style=\"width: 1045px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-4.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-4\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1255\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-4.jpg\" alt=\"LVE Steel cased .22LR ammo\" width=\"1045\" height=\"718\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-4.jpg 1045w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-4-600x412.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-4-1024x704.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-4-768x528.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-4-350x240.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1045px) 100vw, 1045px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1255\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Each round has a &#8220;V&#8221; headstamp. From this perspective, the cartridges look pretty good.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <figure id=\"attachment_1254\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1254\" style=\"width: 612px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-3.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-5\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1254 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-3.jpg\" alt=\"LVE steel cased .22LR ammo cartridges\" width=\"612\" height=\"850\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-3.jpg 612w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-3-324x450.jpg 324w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-3-350x486.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 612px) 100vw, 612px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1254\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Some mild corrosion on the bullets wasn&#8217;t a huge concern at first glance, but may have been an indication that this batch of LVE was stored in a less than ideal environment.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>We\u2019ve sold and shot LVE ammo before, with very few complaints. It&#8217;s not exactly Hornady Match or anything, but certainly usable plinking ammo. So despite being in less than perfect condition, the Russian 22 looked promising, and came from known origins.\u00a0I&#8217;ve\u00a0been working on an upcoming review of the Ruger LCR-22 revolver, so I grabbed the box of Junior on my way out the door to a filming session at the range.<\/p> <h3>The Eight-Shot Ammo Test with Steel Cased .22 LR\u00a0Ammo<\/h3> <p>One of the great things about .22LR revolvers is that they\u2019ll run just about any kind of ammo you can get your hands on. There\u2019s no slide or bolt for the ammo to cycle, no feeding issues to consider, and even the most anemic .22 loads will usually find their way out of the short barrels, leaving very little chance of squibs. I brought along a few other .22LR rifles and pistols to try with the Russian ammo, but decided the LCR-22 would be the first guinea pig.<\/p> <p>After I finished filming what I needed for the LCR-22 review, I left the camera running and loaded up 8 rounds of the LVE Junior steel cased .22LR. I could describe what happened next, but the video tells the story much better (make sure your sound is on for this one):<\/p><p><\/p> <div class=\"entry-content-asset\"><script src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/player.js\" async><\/script><script src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/embed\/kaszvlsmqc.js\" async type=\"module\"><\/script><\/p> <style>wistia-player[media-id='kaszvlsmqc']:not(:defined) &#x7B; background: center \/ contain no-repeat url('https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/embed\/medias\/kaszvlsmqc\/swatch'); display: block; filter: blur(5px); padding-top:56.25%; &#x7D;<\/style> <p> <wistia-player media-id=\"kaszvlsmqc\" seo=\"false\" dnt=\"1\" aspect=\"1.7777777777777777\"><\/wistia-player><\/div> <p>Yep, you heard right. It was musical ammo. The charge in each round varied enough so that there was an audible difference in the sound from one shot to the next. Of course, an intelligent person would have stopped firing after the first odd-sounding shot, but my love for our customers\u2019 education outweighs my common sense, and I kept on firing\u2026 just for you, friends (I also saw bullet holes appearing in the target, so I knew none of the weak loads were actually squibs)<\/p> <p>But after the last shot, I decided the test was over. That \u201cpok\u201d you heard instead of a \u201cbang\u201d was the sound of the primer going off, but failing to ignite the powder. Because the LCR-22 barrel is a mere 2 inches long, the bullet didn\u2019t get stuck, and flew on to strike the target\u2026 two feet low. I\u2019m surprised it even had that much force behind it, but it still wasn\u2019t enough for the bullet to make it all the way through the cardboard.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_1259\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1259\" style=\"width: 936px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-8.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-6\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1259 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-8.jpg\" alt=\"IDPA Target\" width=\"936\" height=\"1234\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-8.jpg 936w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-8-341x450.jpg 341w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-8-777x1024.jpg 777w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-8-768x1013.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-8-350x461.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 936px) 100vw, 936px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1259\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The hits in the center and top of this IDPA target are from using brass cased ammo with the LCR-22. Most of the LVE rounds struck somewhere in the center with those other holes, but the last shot was under-powered. It hit the target two feet low and didn&#8217;t penetrate all the way through the cardboard.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>When I proceeded to eject the shells from the chamber, only\u00a0four\u00a0of the eight fell out. The other four\u00a0were stuck, and it took some extra &#8220;encouragement&#8221; on the ejector rod to get them to pop out. Congratulations, Crappy Old Ammo, you nearly managed to break one of the most reliable .22LR firearms in current production!<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_1252\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1252\" style=\"width: 1004px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-1.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-7\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1252\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-1.jpg\" alt=\"LCR-22 revolver w\/ LVE .22LR cases\" width=\"1004\" height=\"803\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-1.jpg 1004w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-1-563x450.jpg 563w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-1-768x614.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/LVE-22-1-350x280.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1004px) 100vw, 1004px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1252\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Half of the LVE cases fired in the LCR-22 didn&#8217;t want to move without some help.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>Because I value my health and really like my other guns, I decided not to press my luck and ended the test right then. Eight rounds was enough to tell me everything I needed to know about this ammo. I\u2019m sure that at one time, LVE made perfectly sound steel cased .22LR ammo, but whatever warehouse this stuff has been stored in for the last 20 years must have lacked an adequate dehumidifier, because it\u2019s obvious the integrity of the propellant in this ammo has been seriously compromised.<\/p> <p>Will Lucky Gunner ever sell steel-cased .22LR ammo? 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