{"id":2260,"date":"2014-10-09T18:38:06","date_gmt":"2014-10-09T22:38:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/?p=2260"},"modified":"2016-09-10T15:15:29","modified_gmt":"2016-09-10T19:15:29","slug":"scout-rifle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/scout-rifle\/","title":{"rendered":"The Scout Rifle: Is it Still Relevant?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, I\u2019ve been working on a review of a couple of rifles, including the new .223\/5.56 version of the <a href=\"http:\/\/ruger.com\/products\/gunsiteScoutRifle\/models.html\" title=\"Ruger Gunsite\">Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle<\/a>. I\u2019ve already seen a lot of griping online about this gun, in particular the fact that a rifle firing such a small cartridge doesn&#8217;t meet the definition of\u00a0a \u201ctrue\u201d scout rifle.<\/p> <p>So I thought this would be a good opportunity to take a step back and look at the scout rifle concept; where it came from, what it\u2019s intended to do, and whether it\u2019s still relevant for today\u2019s shooters.<\/p> <p>At its core, the so-called \u201cscout rifle\u201d is simply the name that one man assigned to his personal ideal of the general purpose \u201cdo-everything\u201d rifle. It just so happens that man was the late Col. Jeff Cooper, one of the 20th century\u2019s most influential and authoritative voices in the shooting and self-defense world. If that name isn\u2019t familiar to you, go read his <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jeff_Cooper\" title=\"Jeff Cooper\">Wikipedia page<\/a> to get an idea of the impact Cooper has had on the way we still think about and train with firearms today.<\/p> <p>Cooper&#8217;s influence runs deep in the shooting world,\u00a0so when he started writing about his general purpose dream rifle, shooters took note.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_2274\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2274\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Ruger-GSR.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2274\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Ruger-GSR-1024x566.jpg\" alt=\"Ruger Gunsite Scout .223\/5.56\" width=\"1024\" height=\"566\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2274\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The new .223\/5.56 version of the Ruger Gunsite Scout has raised some eyebrows for bearing the &#8220;Scout&#8221; name while using a caliber Cooper was critical of.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <h3><strong>Cooper&#8217;s Scout Rifle Criteria<\/strong><\/h3> <p>When Cooper was really promoting\u00a0the scout rifle idea back in the early 80s,\u00a0the only way to actually get your hands on one\u00a0was to make one yourself, or commission an\u00a0expensive custom job. Eventually, a few gun companies started offering\u00a0factory rifles branded with the &#8220;scout rifle&#8221; name, and some\u00a0meet Cooper&#8217;s criteria better than others.<\/p> <p>The scouts generally accepted as being closest to the real thing are the\u00a0Steyr Mannlicher\u00a0Scout, the Savage Scout (based on their Model 10), and the Ruger Gunsite Scout (based on their Model 77). Cooper collaborated with Steyr on their version of the scout, and while it didn&#8217;t quite meet every detail of his original checklist, it seemed to be close enough to get his stamp of approval.<\/p> <p>That checklist of scout\u00a0criteria is something Cooper wrote about many times, and it seemed to change and evolve somewhat over the years. There is no single canonical list of criteria, and too much is probably made of whether any given rifle strictly adheres to them. If we consider the scout description\u00a0published in Coopers excellent book <em>The Art of the Rifle<\/em> to be the primary canonical source,\u00a0we end up with something like this:<\/p> <ul> <li><strong>Action: Any bolt action with smooth operation<br \/> <\/strong>There was no single definitive manufacturer or model that was preferred for custom scout conversions. As long as the bolt action was smooth and reliable, it could be made to work. Semi-auto rifles were not specifically disallowed, but very few, if any, make the weight requirement.<\/li> <li><strong>Ammunition Feeding<\/strong><br \/> Most scouts take stripper clips or feed from a detachable box magazine<\/li> <li><strong>Weight: Roughly 7\u00a0lbs or less, including sling and optics<br \/> <\/strong>There was a definite preference for rifles on the lighter end of the spectrum. Cooper intended for the rifle to be carried across long distances.<\/li> <li><strong>Size: Overall length of 39&#8243;, barrel length of 19&#8243;<\/strong><br \/> This shorter barrel length might not sound too unusual today (18&#8243; and 20&#8243; bolt guns are quite common now),\u00a0but\u00a0carbines were not generally looked upon favorably\u00a0just a couple of decades ago. An appreciation for shorter barreled rifles may be one of Cooper&#8217;s best contributions to come out of the scout rifle concept.<\/li> <li><strong>Optics: Low-power forward mounted optic with ghost ring backup sights<br \/> <\/strong>Mounting the optic forward of the action allowed the use of stripper clips and quick single-round loading. It also allows the shooter to keep both eyes open and maintain awareness of the immediate surroundings while firing. In some accounts, Cooper considers conventionally mounted scopes acceptable, as long as they&#8217;re low power (no greater than 4x) with fixed magnification. Backup iron sights were recommended, but not an absolute requirement. When present, the large ghost ring aperture was the preferred style.<\/li> <li><strong>Support: Quick Loop Sling and built-in bi-pod<\/strong><br \/> Cooper preferred the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ching_sling\" title=\"Ching Sling\">Ching Sling<\/a>, but any sling that could be looped up quickly for supported shooting was considered acceptable. The bi-pod was more of a luxury than anything, and very few rifles could pull it off without adding considerable weight and bulk.<\/li> <li><strong>Caliber:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/rifle\/308-ammo\" title=\".308 Winchester\">.308 Win<br \/> <\/a><\/strong>The scout rifle had to be able to take down any threat up to 1000 lbs with a single shot, using a caliber that was widely available worldwide. Cooper also liked the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/rifle\/7mm-08-remington-ammo\" title=\"7mm-08\">7mm-08<\/a> cartridge for countries where governments restricted civilian ownership of military calibers. The smaller <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/rifle\/243-ammo\" title=\".243 Winchester\">.243 Win<\/a> cartridge was considered acceptable for smaller shooters, and larger\u00a0calibers like the .350 Rem\u00a0were prescribed for anyone who thought they might encounter\u00a0dangerous large game.<\/li> <li><strong>Accuracy: 2 MOA or better<br \/> <\/strong>The standard for measuring accuracy was three-shot groups under 4 inches at 200 yards.<\/li> <\/ul> <p>When you put all of that together, what you have is essentially a bolt gun in a powerful caliber that\u2019s lightweight and can be brought into action very quickly. Or in Cooper&#8217;s words, &#8220;a short, light, handy, versatile utility rifle&#8230; the Scout is a full-power rifle intended to do as many jobs as any one weapon can.&#8221;<\/p> <p>Looking at the list today, there are some\u00a0attractive features to have in a rifle, but there are some serious drawbacks to the concept as well. The problem with any tool that purports to be \u201cgeneral purpose\u201d is that it\u2019s probably not going to excel in any one area. The scout might be versatile, but it&#8217;s also a rifle of compromises.<strong><strong><br \/> <\/strong><\/strong><\/p> <h3><strong>Scout Rifle Drawbacks<\/strong><\/h3> <p>Let&#8217;s start with the signature forward-mounted scope. They have some advantages, but are pretty lousy in low light, and can be rendered useless by\u00a0glare when the sun is low in the sky&#8230; which just happens to be prime time for hunting many types of game. They also tend to throw off the balance of a rifle, putting too much weight at the front.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_2276\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2276\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/CZ-527.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2276\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/CZ-527-1024x356.jpg\" alt=\"CZ 527 Pseudo-Scout\" width=\"1024\" height=\"356\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2276\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rifles that are close to being scouts but miss some key criteria are sometimes called &#8220;pseudo-scouts&#8221;. My CZ 527 carbine chambered in 7.62&#215;39 is a good example. It&#8217;s a quick-handling versatile bolt gun, but lacks a forward mounted scope and doesn&#8217;t hit hard enough to be a true scout.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>Red dot\/reflex sights, which weren&#8217;t widely available when Cooper came up with these criteria, are arguably faster than a scout scope, and have better low light performance. And a conventionally mounted low-power scope has most of the same advantages of the scout setup with fewer downsides. Since today&#8217;s variable powered scopes are far better than those available in the past, we shouldn&#8217;t limit a general purpose rifle to fixed power scopes, either. I think if Cooper could have seen a modern 1-4x scope with illuminated reticle in 1980, he would have appreciated the advantages it offers over what we now call the scout scope.<\/p> <p>The 2 MOA accuracy requirement certainly dates Cooper&#8217;s writing. Any new off the shelf centerfire bolt gun today that&#8217;s not mechanically capable of\u00a0four inch groups at 200 yards\u00a0should\u00a0be sent back to the factory for warranty repair. By today&#8217;s standards, there&#8217;s nothing inherent in Cooper&#8217;s criteria that would make a scout rifle\u00a0<em>inaccurate<\/em>, but factory-made scouts aren&#8217;t built with accuracy as the main priority, and shooters seeking maximum precision should look elsewhere.<\/p><p><\/p> <p>Today, most scout or scout-like rifles available use detachable box magazines, which many people find cumbersome and make the rifle more difficult to carry. Rifles using stripper clips are few and far between, unless you look to pre-1950 retired military rifles.<\/p> <p>I personally really appreciate light weight, quick handling rifles, but they usually come with drawbacks, too. The most obvious is an increase in felt recoil, but accuracy can also suffer when using slim-profile lightweight barrels.<\/p> <p>And let&#8217;s not forget the most limiting drawback of all: in order to meet the weight requirement, most scouts are\u00a0bolt actions. Bolt guns are good at a lot of things,\u00a0but leave much to be desired when it comes to personal protection from human threats.<\/p> <h3><strong>Who&#8217;s a Scout?<\/strong><\/h3> <p>Before the Cooper fans\u00a0out there get too worked up, I&#8217;m not saying the good Colonel\u00a0didn&#8217;t know what he was talking about when he came up with the scout. But we have to ask whose \u201cgeneral purposes\u201d this rifle is intended to meet, and what options we now have available to meet those purposes.<\/p> <p>I think it&#8217;s a safe bet that 9 out of 10\u00a0of rifles in the U.S. today are purchased for one or more of the following reasons:<\/p> <ul> <li>Personal protection against\u00a0human attackers<\/li> <li>Recreational\/range use (including plinking, target shooting, and competition)<\/li> <li>Recreational hunting in the continental US (as opposed to hunting abroad, professional hunting, or survival hunting)<\/li> <\/ul> <p>Those purposes aren&#8217;t what Cooper had in mind for the scout rifle. Cooper&#8217;s image of the\u00a0user of his scout rifle doesn\u2019t have a lifestyle that looks anything like mine, and probably doesn\u2019t look much like yours, either. Cooper often wrote with romantic flair about\u00a0the lone rifleman facing the unknown. The scout seems best suited for someone who was living 100 years <em>before<\/em> Cooper&#8217;s time &#8212; taming the Western frontier or exploring the unknown corners of the African continent. However, in a modern context, there are few who&#8217;s &#8220;general purposes&#8221; are met by the scout rifle concept except, perhaps, for a serious hunter who takes extended trips into the wilderness\u00a0where he is unsure of what type of terrain and conditions he may face. But &#8220;serious hunters&#8221; are in rare supply these days, and most of them are not apt to settle for a general purpose rifle when a more specialized one is available.<\/p> <p>Many will lament this as another sign of our culture&#8217;s ever-diminishing connection with the outdoors and the values and skills that define the traditional outdoorsman. That may be so, but the fact remains that among today&#8217;s growing ranks of gun owners, I meet very few who have Cooper&#8217;s purposes in mind when they start shopping for a rifle. For Cooper, it seems the general-purpose rifle is expected to do the following:<\/p> <ul> <li>Quickly kill any animal, big or small, for food\u00a0or self-defense<\/li> <li>Light enough to carry while navigating the wilderness for indefinite periods<\/li> <li>Serve as adequate defense against human attackers in a pinch<\/li> <\/ul> <p>For these purposes, considering the hardware available in the 80s, Cooper&#8217;s scout\u00a0would be a fantastic tool. But it&#8217;s common to find attempts\u00a0to shoe-horn the scout, as defined by Cooper, into roles that it was never intended to fill.<\/p> <h3><strong>Today&#8217;s General Purpose Rifle<\/strong><\/h3> <p>If we take a cold, hard look at the place of the scout rifle in the modern world, it&#8217;s essentially a decent hunting rifle with some features that make it better suited for dangerous game, prolonged trips in the field, and about as good for protection from two-legged predators as a bolt gun can be.<\/p> <p>According to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nssf.org\/\">NSSF<\/a> research, the overlap between avid shooters and avid hunters is declining. Some shooters hunt and some hunters shoot, but most people pick one or the other. When the guy or girl we would consider a\u00a0shooting enthusiast goes\u00a0looking for a &#8220;general purpose&#8221; rifle, hunting is going to be a secondary consideration at best. They want a rifle they can use to protect their home and family, and hone their skills on the range. Sure, you <em>could<\/em> use a scout rifle for any of those things, but if you&#8217;re not planning to sleep under the stars on your way to hunt mountain goats tomorrow, there are other guns that are better suited for those tasks.<\/p> <p>If you&#8217;re looking for that one &#8220;general purpose&#8221; rifle that can do all of the above, we can borrow a lot from Cooper&#8217;s ideas, but shouldn&#8217;t limit ourselves to the specifics of his scout concept. For instance, contemporary shooters seem to have adopted the AR-15 as their default\u00a0go-to rifle. Cooper would scoff at the idea of using an AR for self-defense and hunting, and\u00a0is known to have called the M16 a &#8220;poodle-shooter&#8221;. However, today&#8217;s bullet choices make the .223 more versatile than ever, and it&#8217;s\u00a0proven to be pretty effective on small and medium game, including <a href=\"http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php\/Literature\/TheMostDangerousGame?from=Main.TheMostDangerousGame\">The Most Dangerous Game of All<\/a>. For a little more punch, we now have other excellent options in the AR platform\u00a0like the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/rifle\/300-blackout-ammo\" title=\"300 Blackout\">300 BLK<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/rifle\/6.8-remington-spc-ammo\" title=\"6.8 SPC\">6.8 SPC<\/a>. An AR in .308 Win or similar battle rifle will put you over the scout weight requirement, but <a href=\"http:\/\/dpms-gii.com\/full.html\" title=\"DPMS GII\">not necessarily by much<\/a>.<\/p> <p>I think the scout rifle is a pretty cool concept. I <em>want<\/em> to like it, and practical considerations aside, I find the idea of a well-designed scout rifle to be far more interesting than any space age black rifle. If our political situation goes down the toilet and I&#8217;m one day forced to choose a manually operated action as the only rifle I can legally own, toward the top of my list would probably be something that looks very much like a scout. But fortunately, I&#8217;m not faced with that decision. When I start thinking through what I&#8217;d <em>actually<\/em> use a scout rifle for today, there always seem to be better options that come to mind for any one of those tasks.<\/p> <\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, I\u2019ve been working on a review of a couple of rifles, including the new .223\/5.56 version of the Ruger &#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/scout-rifle\/\">Continued<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":2270,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[179,73,89,180,30],"class_list":["post-2260","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-toolbox","tag-cooper","tag-history-2","tag-rifles","tag-scout","tag-technical"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Scout Rifle - Is It Still Relevant? | Lucky Gunner Lounge<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Scout rifles have been around a long time because of their flexibility --- but are they still relevant in today&#039;s world? 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