{"id":6799,"date":"2018-02-27T16:00:55","date_gmt":"2018-02-27T21:00:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/?p=6799"},"modified":"2018-07-16T13:38:24","modified_gmt":"2018-07-16T17:38:24","slug":"review-glock-17m-duty-pistol","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/review-glock-17m-duty-pistol\/","title":{"rendered":"Review: The Glock 17M Duty Pistol"},"content":{"rendered":"

Though the polymer striker fired pistol concept did not originate with Glock, they were the company that brought it to the mainstream with great success. Since then, they have ascribed to an \u201cevolution, not revolution\u201d design philosophy. Each new generation has minor changes and tweaks, but the core concept has remained the same. I was recently issued a new Glock 17M by my department. The 17M is the newest iteration of the very successful duty-sized 9mm Glock and identical to the commercial version of the pistol — the Glock 17 Gen 5. I’ve found that, though Glock has stayed true to their design philosophy,\u00a0 the changes they have made are actual improvements and not just cosmetic alterations.<\/p>

Before moving forward, I should share a brief history of my involvement with Glocks. Prior to LEO training, I had never even held a polymer pistol, let alone fired one. In the military, the only pistol I had used was the Beretta M9. As a cake-eating civilian during the Clinton Assault Weapon Ban years — when magazines holding more than 10 rounds became\u2026pricey — I carried a 1911 or revolver, but the 1911 was the platform I had the most experience with by far. Then came the police academy, where I was issued a Gen 2 Glock 22 with the NY-1 trigger. It was so gritty and oddly stacked, I thought something was wrong inside of the gun and embarrassed myself by telling an instructor I thought my gun needed maintenance. He took it, shot it, and told me that\u2019s what they are supposed to feel like. Not a great start.<\/p>

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I\u2019ve since been issued a Gen 3, and then a Gen 4 Glock 22 with the standard trigger. I prefer the Gen 2 in most ways since the Gen 3 and 4 finger grooves don\u2019t line up with my fingers, but either way, I have never felt fully comfortable with the Glock in general. I suppose you could say I\u2019ve always liked the concept of the Glock but not the execution. I appreciate the simplicity of the weapon, and I appreciate the idea of a backup gun that can accept the same magazines as a primary sidearm. The cost is reasonable, and the reliability and ease of maintenance make them an easy gun to own. I just didn\u2019t shoot the Glock 22 as well as the Sig P226 and the P226 didn\u2019t give me blisters, so when given the option, I elected to carry the Sig.<\/p>

So with the understanding that I\u2019m neither a \u201cfanboy\u201d or \u201chater\u201d, let\u2019s delve into the actual review of the 17M.<\/p>

A magazine-fed pistol isn\u2019t much good without the magazines, and there are some changes to the new Gen 5 mags that came with my 17M. The most obvious is that the Gen 5 magazines have an orange follower. I\u2019m not sure the advantage of a high visibility follower in a pistol magazine, but it does make it easier to differentiate Gen 5 mags from older magazines at a glance. Note that previous generation magazines do function just fine in the Gen 5 pistols, except for those that were made before the implementation of the swappable magazine release, which will not work with a left-handed setup. The magazine body does not appear to be changed, and capacity is still 17 rounds.<\/p>

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The more functional difference is a slightly longer base pad, which, when combined with a cut out in the front of the pistol grip, makes it easier to rip out a stuck magazine.\u00a0 The witness holes are accurate and all three of my issued magazines function as expected.<\/p>

On the pistol itself, the first thing I was excited about was the lack of finger grooves. For those of us who have hands that don\u2019t match the grooves and who are prohibited by policy from modifying the gun, this makes a big difference. Not only is it more comfortable, it promotes a better and more confident grip. The texture of the grip is probably in most customers\u2019 Goldilocks-zone for roughness, but it is my one complaint with the 17M. I would prefer a more aggressive texture since this one began to feel a little squirmy once it got sweaty. Of course, plenty of stippling options exist for those who want a rougher texture and aren\u2019t bound by policy prohibiting such modification. The pistol comes with no back strap installed, but ships with four optional backstraps (two medium and two large backstraps, both with and without a beavertail). The holder for the straps doubles as a tool to remove and install the pin.<\/p>

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Looking at the bottom of the grip, you\u2019ll notice not only the aforementioned cut out for removal of stuck magazines but also a slightly flared magazine well to help with faster reloads. The \u201cfunnel\u201d of the magazine well makes it more forgiving of a slightly misaligned magazine, allowing it to slide home instead of sticking.<\/p>

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Sights are always a bit personal, but I do like the Ameriglo sights that came with my 17M quite a bit. They are slightly smaller than the Trijicon HDs I’ve used in the past and feature a big orange dot up front with a black rear, and three tritium inserts for low light shooting. I shot the 17M in lighting conditions from daylight to nearly complete darkness and did not find any situation in which sights were difficult to acquire. Either the orange or the tritium is always visible, and sometimes you can see a bit of both. The Ameriglo sights are just one of three factory sight options available for the Gen 5 Glock 17. The pistol can also be purchased with plain three-dot night sights, or the standard Glock plastic OEM sights.<\/p>

When using the Ameriglo sights, the light gaps on either side of the front sight are wider than \u201cnormal\u201d Glock sights. This can make accuracy work a bit more challenging, but the <\/span>trade-off is very rapid sight acquisition. When I first received this pistol, the rear sight was not quite centered, causing the gun to shoot about one inch left at 10 yards. After having a friend shoot the gun to confirm that the problem was a sight issue and not operator error, I drifted the rear sight and it now consistently shoots to point of aim.<\/span><\/p>

The 17M is capable of better accuracy than I\u2019ve been able to get from it so far. In controlled testing from a mechanical rest, these guns are capable of sub 2-inch groups at 25 yards. Several examples were under 1 inch at 25 yards using factory 147-grain bullets, with the best example I\u2019m aware of shooting .76 inches. That\u2019s pretty impressive for a general issue handgun, and well within the accuracy requirements for a service pistol. While understanding the \u201cwhy\u201d of the increased accuracy is really beyond my skill set, I was told that the new “Glock Marksman Barrel” includes improvements to lockup consistency as well as changes to the rifling which have lead to this increased accuracy.<\/p>

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It\u2019s pretty easy to tell the Gen 5 barrel is different than the old polygonal rifling.<\/figcaption><\/figure>

The trigger is very smooth — a world of difference from the grit and grind of my old Gen 2 and an improvement even on the decent trigger of the Gen 4. It feels similar to a Robar NP3 coated trigger — there’s no grit, giving the sense that the parts are gliding when they touch, not scraping. The trigger is so good I had to go back and dry fire it to really concentrate on the feel and do my best to describe it. A pull of the trigger starts with smooth take-up of pre-travel, a bit of stacking as you near the break, a predictable break, and then ends with a clean reset. It does what it\u2019s supposed to do so well you don\u2019t really have to think about what it\u2019s doing, it\u2019s simply invisible. While \u201cacceptable\u201d is my normal adjective for a factory Glock trigger, the 17M\u2019s trigger is actually quite good. A friend of mine who is a Glock armorer capable of performing a very nice aftermarket trigger job on them fired my 17M and immediately pronounced it the best factory trigger he had ever felt on a Glock. Our levels of experience with different Glocks are at opposite ends of the spectrum, so when we both agree, I think it\u2019s safe to say you\u2019ll like the new trigger.<\/p>

Of course, the latest Glock design retains the trigger tab, an integral part of keeping the Glock \u201cSafe Action\u201d design drop safe. Since the tab moves in a different plane than the trigger, a drop cannot exert enough inertia on both to allow the trigger to move to the rear. The only change I can see to any component of the \u201cSafe Action\u201d is the firing pin safety plunger. It is now wedge-shaped and larger.<\/p>

Other differences in the slide assembly are a beefier tab for the recoil spring assembly, and the recoil assembly spring itself is longer. While the 9mm isn\u2019t known as a heavy recoiling round to begin with, the Glock RSA does a very good job of reducing felt recoil. I found recoil management and tracking the front sight to be easy with the 17M. Even when it felt slippery with sweat, it wasn\u2019t difficult to control and maintain a firm grip.<\/p>

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On the outside, the Gen 5 slide is slightly chamfered on the muzzle end. While some claim this makes it easier to holster, I\u2019m not sure I buy that, particularly because the frame lacks the same chamfer. It does make an interesting cosmetic change, though — a break in the normal slab sides. I know there had been some speculation about the possibility of Glock adding forward cocking serrations to their newest design update, but they are absent on both my 17M and the commercial Gen 5. How much of a benefit they would be is debatable, particularly without an optic mounted, but I wouldn\u2019t mind having some texture on the forward area of the slide. It\u2019s certainly not a deal breaker for me one way or the other, though.<\/p>

Like the Gen 3 and 4 Glocks, the 17M has an accessory rail on the frame, and I have fired 250 rounds with a Streamlight TLR-1 attached. Having the light installed did not cause any malfunctions. We did have issues with some Gen 3s that malfunctioned only when a WML was installed, so I always test this even though I no longer use a WML day-to-day.<\/p>

To date, I\u2019ve fired 2,459 rounds through the 17M. The first 250 were straight out of the box as delivered. I then field stripped it, cleaned it, and re-lubricated it. I have had zero malfunctions of any kind, with or without the WML, with the issued magazines and with Gen 4 magazines. I even attempted to induce a malfunction via \u201climp wristing\u201d to the point I held the pistol with only my forefinger and thumb of my right hand and pulled the trigger with my left finger, and still couldn\u2019t get it to malfunction.<\/p>

Most existing Glock 17 holsters seem to be compatible with the 17M and Gen 5 Glocks. I did observe one officer with an unknown brand of Kydex holster that was not compatible, as the sides of the Kydex came up high enough to interfere with the ambidextrous slide release. My Comp-Tac IWB, leather OWB, and kydex Safariland duty holster were all compatible. If your holster doesn\u2019t cover the ambi slide release and it has enough height in the sight tunnel to accommodate a slightly taller sight, you shouldn\u2019t have any issue.<\/p>

In summary, it\u2019s still the same pistol that put Glock on the map, but through careful and well thought out updates, it\u2019s the best example of a Glock to date. No matter if you love, hate, or are indifferent to the Glock, it\u2019s impossible to deny that it\u2019s the pistol that all polymer framed striker-fired guns are compared to. With the 17M now available to the public as the Glock 17 Gen 5, all of those pistols attempting to claim the \u201cGlock killer\u201d title have an even higher standard to meet.<\/p> <\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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