{"id":7076,"date":"2018-08-08T11:57:46","date_gmt":"2018-08-08T15:57:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/?p=7076"},"modified":"2018-08-13T09:25:31","modified_gmt":"2018-08-13T13:25:31","slug":"tested-federal-hst-38-special-p","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/tested-federal-hst-38-special-p\/","title":{"rendered":"Federal HST .38 Special +P Review and Ballistic Gelatin Test"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Not too long after we published the results of our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/labs\/revolver-ballistics-test\/\">.38 Special and .357 magnum ballistic gel tests<\/a> last year, Federal started shipping their new HST load designed for use in short barrel .38 Special revolvers. Considering the popularity of the Federal HST line, it should be no surprise that we have received dozens of requests to test this one. We finally did just that, and added the results to our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/labs\/revolver-ballistics-test\/#38spl\">interactive chart<\/a> last week. If you don&#8217;t want to scroll through all the test results to find it, just type &#8220;HST&#8221; in the search box on the chart.<\/p> <p>This new HST design is fairly unique and, as far as I know, it&#8217;s the first time a major ammo company has marketed and sold a .38 Special jacketed hollow point with an almost completely cylindrical profile (but feel free to correct me if you know of an earlier precedent).<\/p> <p>In the video below, I discuss some of these details further, and I also talk about a &#8220;bonus&#8221; gel test I ran with this load that you won&#8217;t find on our official results chart. As always, you can skip the video and keep scrolling to read the full transcript.<\/p> <div class=\"entry-content-asset\"><script src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/assets\/external\/E-v1.js\" async><\/script><\/p> <noscript class=\"idle-load\"><div class=\"wistia_responsive_padding\" style=\"padding:56.25% 0 0 0;position:relative;\"> <div class=\"wistia_responsive_wrapper\" style=\"height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;top:0;width:100%;\"> <div class=\"wistia_embed wistia_async_g8eu8jmx6g dnt=1 videoFoam=true\" style=\"height:100%;position:relative;width:100%\"> <div class=\"wistia_swatch\" style=\"height:100%;left:0;opacity:0;overflow:hidden;position:absolute;top:0;transition:opacity 200ms;width:100%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/embed\/medias\/g8eu8jmx6g\/swatch\" style=\"filter:blur(5px);height:100%;object-fit:contain;width:100%;\" alt=\"\" aria-hidden=\"true\" onload=\"this.parentNode.style.opacity=1;\" \/><\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><\/noscript> <\/div> <p>See all the .38 Special and .357 Magnum ballistic gel tests results at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/labs\/revolver-ballistics-test\/\">Lucky Gunner Labs<\/a>.<\/p> <hr \/> <p>Last year, Federal introduced a new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/38-special-p-130-gr-hst-jhp-personal-defense-micro-federal-20-rounds\">HST load in .38 Special +P<\/a>. As most of you guys probably already know, the HST line includes some of the best self-defense ammo on the market, but this is the first time they have attached that name to a revolver caliber. We don\u2019t often get to see new hollow point ammo made specifically for .38 Special and with very few exceptions, the existing loads have been pretty unimpressive in terms of terminal ballistics. If you\u2019ve got a 4-inch or longer barrel, there are some decent options, but most people who are carrying a revolver these days are using a small frame snub nose with a 2-inch barrel. At the reduced velocities we get out of those guns, it\u2019s tough to design a bullet that will both penetrate and expand reliably.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/HST-pulled-bullet.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7079\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/HST-pulled-bullet.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/HST-pulled-bullet.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/HST-pulled-bullet-600x384.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/HST-pulled-bullet-1024x655.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/HST-pulled-bullet-768x492.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/HST-pulled-bullet-350x224.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>Federal is marketing this new load as a Micro HST, which means it will supposedly perform well even out of a short barrel. To pull this off, they\u2019re using a 130 grain jacketed hollow point bullet with a unique new design. It\u2019s basically a hollowed out cylinder that\u2019s seated almost flush with the case mouth. Years ago, there was a fad where handloaders would stick wadcutter bullets backwards in the case hoping that would make them expand on impact. It didn\u2019t really work, but this new HST kind of resembles that same concept only with a modern jacketed bullet. So, let\u2019s see how this load does in our ballistic gel test.<\/p> <p>Just like our previous .38 Special tests, we used a 2-inch Kimber K6s to fire five rounds into a Clear Ballistics gelatin block with a heavy clothing barrier. Then we repeated the test using a 4-inch Ruger GP100.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/K6s-GP100.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7081\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/K6s-GP100.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/K6s-GP100.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/K6s-GP100-600x170.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/K6s-GP100-1024x290.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/K6s-GP100-768x218.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/K6s-GP100-350x99.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>With the 2-inch barrel, we got an average penetration depth of 13 inches &#8212; that\u2019s inside of the 12-18 inch standard used by the FBI. Average expansion was an impressive .73 inches. The 4-inch barrel gave us a velocity increase around 30 feet per second, but the gel test results were not much different. Penetration was an inch deeper and expansion was roughly the same. Compared to the 18 other .38 Special loads we have tested so far, this is excellent performance. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/38-special-125-gr-jhp-remington-saber-25-rounds#geltest\">Remington Golden Saber<\/a> and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/winchester-38-spl-ammo-for-sale-38specialp130jhppdxwinse-20#geltest\">Winchester PDX-1<\/a> were among the best .38s from our first batch of testing, but the HST looks to have a slight advantage in terms of expansion.<\/p><p><\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-2-inch-results.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7083\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-2-inch-results.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1196\" height=\"541\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-2-inch-results.jpg 1196w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-2-inch-results-600x271.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-2-inch-results-1024x463.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-2-inch-results-768x347.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-2-inch-results-350x158.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1196px) 100vw, 1196px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-4-inch-results.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-3\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7084\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-4-inch-results.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1196\" height=\"541\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-4-inch-results.jpg 1196w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-4-inch-results-600x271.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-4-inch-results-1024x463.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-4-inch-results-768x347.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-4-inch-results-350x158.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1196px) 100vw, 1196px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>This is actually on par with the best expansion we\u2019ve seen from even 9mm and .357 magnum. It\u2019s not difficult to see how Federal was able to achieve this. The wide open front of the .38 HST bullet is almost what you might call &#8220;pre-expanded.&#8221; So it doesn\u2019t get plugged up with the fabric and when it hits the gel, it doesn\u2019t take much for it to open up.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_7085\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7085\" style=\"width: 1198px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-expanded-bullets.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-4\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7085 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-expanded-bullets.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1198\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-expanded-bullets.jpg 1198w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-expanded-bullets-600x237.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-expanded-bullets-1024x404.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-expanded-bullets-768x303.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/38-hst-expanded-bullets-350x138.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1198px) 100vw, 1198px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7085\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Expanded bullets recovered from the gel block used for the 4-inch barrel test.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>I\u2019ve been pretty impressed with this ammo so far, and in my experience, Federal has some of the best quality control in the ammo industry, so I prefer loading their stuff in my carry guns if at all possible. With that in mind, yesterday I went out to the range to run some of this HST through the Smith &amp; Wesson 342PD J-frame that I carry sometimes. I wanted to check out the point of impact and the recoil in this little 11-ounce monster and at the last minute, I decided to get some chronograph readings too.<\/p> <p>The barrel is only an eighth of an inch shorter than the 2-inch Kimber test gun, but every revolver is like a unique snowflake and you can\u2019t always assume it will shoot within a specific velocity range based on barrel length alone. This turned out to be a perfect example. The Smith averaged 782 feet per second. That&#8217;s pretty slow &#8212; it\u2019s 42 feet per second less than the Kimber, which I thought might be enough of a change to potentially have a measurable impact on terminal ballistics.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_7082\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7082\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/SW342PD-gel-test.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-5\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7082 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/SW342PD-gel-test.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"572\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/SW342PD-gel-test.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/SW342PD-gel-test-600x286.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/SW342PD-gel-test-1024x488.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/SW342PD-gel-test-768x366.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/SW342PD-gel-test-350x167.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7082\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">When fired from the S&amp;W 342PD, the HST bullets lost a significant amount of velocity and performance in the gelatin suffered as well.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>I actually happened to have one spare block of gelatin at the range and some pieces of our heavy clothing fabric barrier, so I did a quick gel test. The first shot looked really nice. Same kind of expansion as before with a respectable penetration depth of 12.8 inches. But (and here\u2019s why we always do a five shot test), the next bullets did not penetrate quite as well. One of them hardly expanded and only made it to 10.4 inches.<\/p> <figure id=\"attachment_7086\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7086\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/342-expanded-bullets.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-6\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7086 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/342-expanded-bullets.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"470\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/342-expanded-bullets.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/342-expanded-bullets-600x235.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/342-expanded-bullets-1024x401.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/342-expanded-bullets-768x301.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/342-expanded-bullets-350x137.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7086\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Recovered bullets from the S&amp;W 342PD gel test.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <p>So it looks like this bullet needs a minimum velocity around 800 feet per second in order to give it the best chance of meeting the FBI standard. Even though some of these were under the 12-inch ideal minimum, by .38 Special standards, this is actually not terrible performance overall. I probably would not carry it in this particular gun just because it\u2019s so light and I\u2019d rather have a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/wadcutter-ammo-self-defense\/\">standard pressure low recoil load<\/a> that will let me get back on target quicker. With a slightly heavier gun, I would strongly consider using the HST, especially if the velocity clocked in at 800 or better.<\/p> <p>If you want to take a more detailed look at our .38 Special gel tests, you can find all the data, photos, and videos on our interactive chart at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/labs\/revolver-ballistics-test\">Lucky Gunner Labs<\/a>. And as always, you can support this project by getting your ammo from us at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\">LuckyGunner.com<\/a>.<\/p> <\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not too long after we published the results of our .38 Special and .357 magnum ballistic gel tests last year, &#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/tested-federal-hst-38-special-p\/\">Continued<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":7078,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[358,216],"tags":[44,287,47,263,42,17,131],"class_list":["post-7076","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ammo","category-wheel-gun-wednesday","tag-38-special","tag-ballistic-gelatin","tag-concealed-carry","tag-gel-testing","tag-revolvers","tag-self-defense","tag-snub-nose"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Federal HST .38 Special +P Review and Ballistic Gelatin Test<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Not long ago, Federal introduced a new HST load in .38 Special +P. 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