{"id":7600,"date":"2019-06-13T18:34:12","date_gmt":"2019-06-13T22:34:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/?p=7600"},"modified":"2021-08-03T08:31:31","modified_gmt":"2021-08-03T12:31:31","slug":"start-shooting-better-episode-12-the-test-with-no-name","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/start-shooting-better-episode-12-the-test-with-no-name\/","title":{"rendered":"Start Shooting Better Episode 12: The Test With No Name"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/category\/start-shooting-better\/\">Start Shooting Better<\/a> is back! After numerous requests, John and I have filmed a few more videos outlining shooting drills and tests for you to try at the range. This one involves hitting 8-inch bullseyes and one-inch squares, but it&#8217;s only from five yards away. Should be easy, right? Try it out and let us know what you think. Details are in the video below, or you can scroll down and read the full transcript.<\/p> <div class=\"entry-content-asset\"><script src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/assets\/external\/E-v1.js\" async><\/script><\/p> <noscript class=\"idle-load\"><div class=\"wistia_responsive_padding\" style=\"padding:56.25% 0 28px 0;position:relative;\"> <div class=\"wistia_responsive_wrapper\" style=\"height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;top:0;width:100%;\"> <div class=\"wistia_embed wistia_async_3ki6s2u2do dnt=1 videoFoam=true\" style=\"height:100%;position:relative;width:100%\"> <div class=\"wistia_swatch\" style=\"height:100%;left:0;opacity:0;overflow:hidden;position:absolute;top:0;transition:opacity 200ms;width:100%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/embed\/medias\/3ki6s2u2do\/swatch\" style=\"filter:blur(5px);height:100%;object-fit:contain;width:100%;\" alt=\"\" aria-hidden=\"true\" onload=\"this.parentNode.style.opacity=1;\" \/><\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><\/noscript> <\/div> <hr \/> <p>CHRIS: Hey guys, Chris here from LuckyGunner.com with John Johnston from Citizens Defense Research and this is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/category\/start-shooting-better\/\">Start Shooting Better<\/a>. We\u2019re back by popular demand. You guys have asked for more of the drills and tests we\u2019ve been talking about so we\u2019re going to do another one today and this one is one that John himself came up with called The Test With No Name. John, tell us about it.<\/p> <p>JOHN: Well, the first thing people generally ask is \u201cwhy is it called The Test With No Name?\u201d Because I wanted to call it something else &#8212; a popular actor who may have starred in quite a few movies\u2026<\/p> <p>CHRIS: Rhymes with \u201cBrent Creastwood\u201d?<\/p> <p>JOHN: Yes. Is that\u2026 I don\u2019t think that rhymes.<\/p> <p>CHRIS: Close enough.<\/p> <p>JOHN: So anyway, I wanted to call it that, but I was scared of getting C&amp;Ded so it\u2019s \u201cThe Test With No Name.\u201d Essentially, what I\u2019ve done is taken Ernest Langdon\u2019s excellent target that he\u2019s got, turned it horizontal and what you\u2019re going to do is draw, fire five rounds on the left-most bullseye, transition to the one-inch square of your choosing (because there are two in the middle between the two bullseyes), fire one round on the one-inch square, transition to the remaining bullseye target, fire five rounds on that one, transition to the remaining one-inch square [and fire one round] for a total of 12 rounds.<\/p> <p>Oh, the other thing, this is meant to be shot from concealment. So if you\u2019re running it from an open-top holster that does not have retention, [add .5 seconds to your total time.]<\/p> <p>\u201cBut John, what if my gun doesn\u2019t hold 12 rounds?\u201d There\u2019s a 10-round version where, instead of firing five rounds on the bullseyes, you fire four and that adds a .5 penalty.<\/p> <p>\u201cBut John, what if my gun doesn\u2019t hold 10 rounds?\u201d You need to get into this millennium, at least.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/test-description.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7606\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/test-description.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"563\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/test-description.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/test-description-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/test-description-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/test-description-350x197.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>CHRIS: I\u2019m gonna shoot it with my J-frame.<\/p> <p>JOHN: You can do that\u2026<\/p> <p>CHRIS: I\u2019ll just use two J-frames.<\/p> <p>JOHN: There you go. That\u2019s how we\u2019ll do that. So anyway, the way scoring is handled is anything inside of the black of the bullseyes\u2026<\/p> <p>CHRIS: Which is a B-8, by the way.<\/p> <p>JOHN: Yeah, B-8 bullseye &#8212; is going to be full value. Anything inside of the 8-ring for each one of those is going to be plus .5 [seconds]. Anything outside of the 8-ring is an immediate DQ, so, disqualification.<\/p> <p>For the one-inch squares, anything touching the one-inch squares (And grease rings count as hits. Not tears, grease rings) is full value. Anything not touching the one-inch square is a DQ.<\/p> <p>Just for tracking purposes, if you miss it, I\u2019ll add plus one second to the time just so I can track over time what my scores look like. And the same thing if you launch a round out of the B-8, out of the 8-ring, each one of those will be now a plus one second. And that\u2019s just for performance tracking. It doesn\u2019t matter in the class because if you DQ, you DQ.<\/p><p><\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-shooting-test.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7607\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-shooting-test.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"563\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-shooting-test.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-shooting-test-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-shooting-test-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-shooting-test-350x197.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>When I run it in class, the scoring is just simply whoever does it the quickest, clean, wins. It\u2019s meant to be run twice. If you disqualify in the first run then you get to try it again.<\/p> <p>If you\u2019re going to run this at home, what I would do is run it twice and either way, if you DQ or don\u2019t DQ and just kind of see where you\u2019re at.<\/p> <p>CHRIS: I really like this drill and one of the big reasons why is because of the changing gears aspect of it. I think it\u2019s a really important skill to have because, you know, once you develop some proficiency, drawing and burning five rounds into a B-8 should be pretty much something you\u2019re accustomed to doing but then, changing gears to hit that one inch and then fast again and back to the&#8211; So, it\u2019s quickly, carefully, quickly, carefully. It really requires a lot of restraint and discipline.<\/p> <p>JOHN: Yeah, emotional control, which is one of the points of what I\u2019m trying to get people to be able to do.<\/p> <p>CHRIS: And just to give you guys an idea of the difficulty, when we shot it yesterday, we each shot it just twice and\u2026<\/p> <p>JOHN: DQed<\/p> <p>CHRIS: DQed four times. And I had&#8211; my last one, I was really excited about it and the last shot, I pulled it. The second the bullet left the gun, I knew it was low and it was&#8211; I probably screamed on camera, I\u2019m not sure. It\u2019s really frustrating.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-target.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-target.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"563\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-target.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-target-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-target-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/chris-target-350x197.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>JOHN: I think you did. So there are some par times with this. The one that I\u2019m going for and the one that\u2019s important in the class (and there\u2019s an award associated with it), the score standard for that is if you can shoot it clean under six seconds twice, you will be awarded this\u2026 thing that has not yet been created yet but I know it\u2019s going to be created and it will be numbered. The funny thing is, I haven\u2019t been able to do it in class either. It\u2019s a difficult, difficult standard.<\/p> <p>CHRIS: But I should say, it\u2019s also doable. Having done it, I can see &#8212; you know, I\u2019m not saying I\u2019m going to get it anytime soon, but it\u2019s definitely within the realm of reason. I think you could do it, it\u2019s just, to do it two times in a row, those one-inch squares will really mess with you.<\/p> <p>JOHN: So, let\u2019s say you\u2019re not interested in the six second mark. If you\u2019re thinking of that as the expert rating, the advanced rating would be under 10, the intermediate rating would be under 15, and then the novice rating would be anything over 15.<\/p> <p>Before you\u2019re going for times, you should be going for clean because, frankly, it\u2019s not easy to shoot clean. The thing that it should <em>not<\/em> turn into is something like a Dot Torture thing where, \u201cOh, if I shoot this in 60 seconds, I can shoot it.\u201d Nuh uh.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/john-target.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-3\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7609\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/john-target.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"563\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/john-target.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/john-target-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/john-target-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/john-target-350x197.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>And one of the things that we\u2019re working on here is &#8212; [in addition to] getting the grip right out of the holster, getting the presentation right, getting the transitions right &#8212; not looking at the sighting system for too long. So, I\u2019m not saying not to be focused on the sighting system. I want people to \u201caware\u201d on the sighting system, but I don\u2019t want them to <em>over-confirm<\/em> it. To do well at this you need to pretty much, as soon as you are aware that you have seen what you need to see to hit the one-inch square, you press the trigger and move on to the next thing. That\u2019s where people fall down. The number of people I see that will have the gun up in front of them and they\u2019re sighting on the one-inch square and just sitting there trying to figure it out and then they finally say, \u201cokay, I should shoot now!\u201d and they don\u2019t hit it. If you see what you need to see, it\u2019s not going to get any better the longer you look at it. It will probably get worse. And that was one of the big teaching points from the class and one of the reasons why this is now a thing in existence.<\/p> <p>This is something where, if you\u2019re wanting to really shake down your gun, I think this is a pretty good way to do that. This is not something where it magically gets easier the more you do it. I mean, it gets somewhat easier the more you do it, but it\u2019s still a tight target pretty quick, no matter what. If you can get good at hitting tight targets really quick, you\u2019re good at a lot of things.<\/p> <p>CHRIS: So that\u2019s The Test With No Name. You can shoot that on the Langdon targets or we\u2019ve got a <a href=\"https:\/\/loungecdn.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/B-8-LG.pdf\">printable target you can use<\/a>. It\u2019s got a single B-8 on it, you just use that for both the B-8s. Give it a shot and let us know how it goes.<\/p> <\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Start Shooting Better is back! 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