{"id":7726,"date":"2019-09-12T17:38:30","date_gmt":"2019-09-12T21:38:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/?p=7726"},"modified":"2025-02-13T13:51:54","modified_gmt":"2025-02-13T18:51:54","slug":"evolution-of-the-smith-wesson-snub-nose","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/evolution-of-the-smith-wesson-snub-nose\/","title":{"rendered":"Evolution of the Smith &#038; Wesson Snub Nose"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/category\/pocket-pistols\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7736 size-full\" title=\"Pocket Pistols banner \" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/pocket-pistol-series-banner-18.jpg\" alt=\"Pocket Pistols banner\" width=\"1200\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/pocket-pistol-series-banner-18.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/pocket-pistol-series-banner-18-600x99.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/pocket-pistol-series-banner-18-1024x169.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/pocket-pistol-series-banner-18-768x127.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/pocket-pistol-series-banner-18-350x58.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>The first Smith &amp; Wesson J-frame revolver hit the market in 1950, but the basic design it&#8217;s derived from goes all the way back to 1896. There&#8217;s a lot to learn from looking at how this iconic concealed carry favorite has changed and evolved over time. In some ways, it&#8217;s a window into the changes in defensive shooting doctrine over the years. Unlike the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/guide-beretta-92\/\">Evolution of the Beretta 92<\/a> that we did a while back, this post isn&#8217;t intended to be a guide to every technical change made to S&amp;W snubbies in the last century &#8212; it&#8217;s more about the &#8220;whys&#8221; behind those changes. So, let&#8217;s explore the evolution of the Smith &amp; Wesson snub nose.<\/p> <p>Watch the video below for details, or scroll down to read the full transcript.<\/p> <div class=\"entry-content-asset\"><script src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/assets\/external\/E-v1.js\" async><\/script><\/p> <noscript class=\"idle-load\"><div class=\"wistia_responsive_padding\" style=\"padding:56.25% 0 0 0;position:relative;\"> <div class=\"wistia_responsive_wrapper\" style=\"height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;top:0;width:100%;\"> <div class=\"wistia_embed wistia_async_0lui2sbyqx dnt=1 videoFoam=true\" style=\"height:100%;position:relative;width:100%\"> <div class=\"wistia_swatch\" style=\"height:100%;left:0;opacity:0;overflow:hidden;position:absolute;top:0;transition:opacity 200ms;width:100%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.com\/embed\/medias\/0lui2sbyqx\/swatch\" style=\"filter:blur(5px);height:100%;object-fit:contain;width:100%;\" alt=\"\" aria-hidden=\"true\" onload=\"this.parentNode.style.opacity=1;\" \/><\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div><\/noscript> <\/div> <hr \/> <h3><strong>Learning From History<br \/> <\/strong><\/h3> <p>We are coming up on a full year since we started this series on pocket pistols&#8230; which is only about six months longer than I thought it might last. Whenever I start a new series, I usually have a basic outline of topics, but once I dig into it, I always come across things I want to talk about that weren\u2019t part of the original plan. In this case, I happened to find an old Smith &amp; Wesson .32 Long snub nose at a local gun shop for a good price. As I was looking at it, I started thinking about how it\u2019s pretty similar to a modern J-frame Smith on the surface, but if you consider all the little details, it\u2019s not really the same at all.<\/p> <p>A lot of the most popular guns around today are based on designs that are decades old. There is a lot we can learn by looking at how these guns have changed and evolved over the years because those changes often tell a story about the way people thought about marksmanship, or concealed carry, or even gunfighting.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Pre-Model-30-2.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7732 size-full\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Pre-Model-30-2.jpg\" alt=\"Smith &amp; Wesson Pre Model 30 .32 Long\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Pre-Model-30-2.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Pre-Model-30-2-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Pre-Model-30-2-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Pre-Model-30-2-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/Pre-Model-30-2-350x197.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.smith-wesson.com\">Smith &amp; Wesson<\/a> made this revolver around 1954 or \u201855. Collectors today would call it a \u201cPre-Model 30\u201d because it was made before Smith &amp; Wesson assigned model numbers to everything. At the time, the official name was simply the &#8220;.32 Hand Ejector.&#8221;<\/p> <p>The 1950s was a period when Smith &amp; Wesson was making some new guns that would become game-changers in the small-frame snub nose market. But this little .32 wasn\u2019t really part of that &#8212; it was more like a relic of the era that was passing.<\/p> <p>If you compare this gun to a modern J-frame, the first thing you might notice is that it\u2019s smaller. They are relatively the same size in most dimensions but the cylinder and the cylinder window in the frame are about a quarter inch shorter. That\u2019s because this isn\u2019t actually a J-frame at all. It\u2019s an I-frame, which pre-dates the J-frame by more than 50 years.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/iframe-vs-jframe.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7730 size-full\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/iframe-vs-jframe.jpg\" alt=\"Smith &amp; Wesson revolvers side by side\" width=\"1065\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/iframe-vs-jframe.jpg 1065w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/iframe-vs-jframe-600x380.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/iframe-vs-jframe-1024x649.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/iframe-vs-jframe-768x487.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/iframe-vs-jframe-350x222.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1065px) 100vw, 1065px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <h3><strong>From Hand Ejector to J-Frame<br \/> <\/strong><\/h3> <p>Smith &amp; Wesson launched their famous Hand Ejector line in 1896. That\u2019s the basic design all their revolvers are still based on today. The first one was a .32 Hand Ejector &#8212; an I-frame very similar to this one, only with a longer barrel. Three years later, they came out with a .38 Special Hand Ejector, which they built on the slightly larger K-frame. That&#8217;s the iconic revolver that would eventually receive the designation of the &#8220;Model 10.&#8221; S&amp;W marketed both revolvers as police sidearms but a few decades into the 1900s, the .32 Long cartridge was beginning to be considered underpowered for that role.<\/p> <p>So as .38 Special became more dominant, there was a growing market for a short-barreled small-frame revolver in that caliber. Unfortunately, the I-frame cylinder was not long enough because it was designed for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/handgun\/32-s-w-long-ammo\">.32 Long<\/a> cartridge which, despite the name, is shorter than <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/handgun\/38-special-ammo\">.38 Special ammo<\/a>.<\/p> <p>So in 1950, Smith &amp; Wesson introduced a new frame size. The J-frame Chief\u2019s Special was basically an I-frame with a longer cylinder and cylinder window. It only held five rounds of .38 Special versus six rounds of .32. That lower capacity didn\u2019t stop it from being a massive success.<\/p> <p>In 1961, Smith &amp; Wesson decided they didn\u2019t need two different small frame sizes, so they discontinued all the I-frames. After that point, any small frame .32s Smith &amp; Wesson built used the J-frame.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/32-long-vs-38-spl.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7729 size-full\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/32-long-vs-38-spl.jpg\" alt=\"38 special ammo next to 32 long ammo on a table with a revolver\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/32-long-vs-38-spl.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/32-long-vs-38-spl-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/32-long-vs-38-spl-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/32-long-vs-38-spl-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/32-long-vs-38-spl-350x197.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <p>The .38 Special J-frames were especially popular with police. In the 1900s, law enforcement sales really drove the handgun market, even more than today. So Smith &amp; Wesson made a lot of these changes we\u2019re going to talk about in response to what police were saying they wanted as they carried and used these guns on duty.<\/p> <h3><strong>Target Shooting Versus Practical Self-Defense<br \/> <\/strong><\/h3> <p>Even though S&amp;W intended this .32 snub nose to be used for personal protection, like a lot of revolvers from that era, there are a few indications that it was designed by people who were mostly familiar with single action target shooting. For most of the 20th century, police and anyone else who took handgun shooting seriously were most likely to practice and compete using some form of slow-fire bullseye shooting. This encouraged thumb-cocking the hammer for every shot. There\u2019s evidence of this mentality when we look at the sights, the grips, the trigger, and, of course, the presence of the hammer spur.<\/p> <p>Some of the modern J-frames also have a hammer spur, but most of the current models are double action only. They conceal the hammer inside the frame. You give up the single action feature to make the gun more snag-free and easier to draw. Smith &amp; Wesson made the first so-called \u201chammerless\u201d J-frame in 1952 called the \u201cCentennial,\u201d which came with a grip safety that I think hurt its popularity. A few years after that they introduced the original Bodyguard. It was a J-frame with a hammer spur shrouded only on the sides so you could still cock the hammer manually. But even after these models came out, for a long time, most J-frames had the standard exposed hammer spur. I don\u2019t believe that really started to change until about the 1990s with the rise of the modern concealed carry movement.<\/p><p><\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/J-frame-catalog.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-3\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7731 size-full\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/J-frame-catalog.jpg\" alt=\"Old S&amp;W revolver advertisements\" width=\"1200\" height=\"749\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/J-frame-catalog.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/J-frame-catalog-600x375.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/J-frame-catalog-1024x639.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/J-frame-catalog-768x479.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/J-frame-catalog-350x218.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <h3><strong>Trigger Evolution<\/strong><\/h3> <p>If you look at any current-production J-frame, it\u2019s going to have a trigger with a smooth face. Back when Smith made this one you had the option of getting a trigger with a serrated face. That&#8217;s how most were made. That might have some benefits when you\u2019re shooting the gun single action and you\u2019re pressing the trigger with the pad of your finger. Shooting double action, you need more leverage on the trigger. Most people get better results if they use the first joint of their finger.<\/p> <p>If you hold up your hand and move your finger in a motion like you\u2019re manipulating the trigger, you\u2019ll notice that whole first segment of your finger doesn\u2019t go back in a straight line. It moves along an arcing path. So with a good trigger press, your finger is going to kind of roll across the face of that trigger. Attempting that with a trigger that has a serrated face&#8230; kind of sucks. After the first box of ammo, it starts to feel like a cheese grater. I\u2019m guessing that the serrated triggers were eventually dropped as a cost-saving measure. The side benefit is that the smooth triggers make the guns much better for double action shooting.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/trigger-comparison.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-4\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7734 size-full\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/trigger-comparison.jpg\" alt=\"Serrated vs smooth trigger\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/trigger-comparison.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/trigger-comparison-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/trigger-comparison-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/trigger-comparison-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/trigger-comparison-350x197.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <h3><strong>Evolution of the Sights<\/strong><\/h3> <p>In profile, the fixed sights on this old gun don\u2019t look any different from the fixed sights on a lot of modern J-frames. If you actually try to use them, you\u2019ll immediately notice that both the front ramp and the rear notch are much narrower. The assumption was that you would point shoot at close range and the sights were for target shooting. The narrow sights give you more precision so you can hit that bullseye at 25 or 50 yards. And I can confirm that this little gun is unbelievably accurate. Thanks to the inherent accuracy of the .32 Long cartridge, it will shoot better groups than just about any other handgun I\u2019ve owned.<\/p> <p>But we\u2019ve learned from the experiences of people who have actually been in gun fights. It turns out that sometimes sights are really useful at close range, if you can actually see them. So for close range defensive use, I would much rather have the wider sights found on the modern J-frames. Even those are not all that great, but the wider ramp and notch are much easier to see. With a little bright paint on the front sight, I have a usable sight picture I can acquire very quickly. And we\u2019ve also got some new J-frames with pretty good fixed sights like the bigger U-notch and white dot front sight on this Model 43C.<\/p> <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sights-comparison-wide.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-5\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7733 size-full\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sights-comparison-wide.jpg\" alt=\"The evolution of Smith &amp; Wesson revolver sights with examples of old style, new style and U-notch\" width=\"1500\" height=\"562\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sights-comparison-wide.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sights-comparison-wide-600x225.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sights-comparison-wide-1024x384.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sights-comparison-wide-768x288.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/media\/sights-comparison-wide-350x131.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1500px) 100vw, 1500px\" \/><\/a><\/p> <h3><strong>Evolution of the Grips<\/strong><\/h3> <p>One more sign of the fixation with single action target shooting is the grips. The factory checkered walnut stocks certainly look nice, but they aren\u2019t ideal for a defensive revolver. The main issue is that they don\u2019t fill in this area here behind the trigger guard. Some shooters call this area the \u201csinus.\u201d<\/p> <p>Today, J-frames come with many different types of grips and there is a plethora of aftermarket options. Nearly all of them, to some degree, will fill in the sinus.<\/p> <p>That does a couple of things. First, it changes the orientation of your hand. With the original grips, your trigger finger has to contort downward at an awkward angle. If you want to shoot double action, you\u2019ll probably end up pressing on the very top of the trigger. That&#8217;s where the resistance is greatest.<\/p> <p>The grips on modern J-frames lower your fingers on the frontstrap. They put the trigger finger closer to being in line with the center of the trigger.<\/p> <p>The other benefit of these grips is that they tend to fill most people\u2019s hands better. They&#8217;re more comfortable and it makes the gun easier to control because the grip won\u2019t shift around in the hand as much under recoil.<\/p> <p>It\u2019s actually not fair to call this a modern innovation. Grips with this same basic shape actually date way back to the 1920s or 30s. Before that, there were grip adapters available that accomplish the same thing. Some people believed that the lower hand position was better for single action target shooting, not just for shooting the gun double action.<\/p> <p>Newer J-frames offer a lot of other upgrades, like the larger cylinder release latch and shrouded ejector rod. Around the time this gun was made in the 1950s, Smith &amp; Wesson was starting to experiment with lightweight aluminum alloy frames. Today, they have continued to push the envelope on using modern materials, making small frame revolvers as light as possible. And I think that, more than anything, is what keeps the J-frames relevant today. They can be as light as any pocket semi-auto, but they give you a little more grip to hang on to.<\/p> <p>Of course, I went into more depth on that topic on our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/pocket-pistols-vs-snub-nose-revolvers\/\">Pocket Pistols Versus Snub Nose Revolvers<\/a> video. You can find that and the rest of our Pocket Pistol Series along with the full text transcripts <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/category\/pocket-pistols\/\">here<\/a>. We are getting close to the end of our Pocket Pistols Series but we\u2019ve still got a few more topics to cover before we wrap it up. Be sure to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/subscribe-to-newsletter\/\">subscribe<\/a> because you don\u2019t want to miss a thing.<\/p> <\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The first Smith &amp; Wesson J-frame revolver hit the market in 1950, but the basic design it&#8217;s derived from goes &#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luckygunner.com\/lounge\/evolution-of-the-smith-wesson-snub-nose\/\">Continued<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":7727,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[72,361,216],"tags":[379,47,364,78,42,221,131],"class_list":["post-7726","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-history","category-pocket-pistols","category-wheel-gun-wednesday","tag-32-long","tag-concealed-carry","tag-j-frame","tag-revolver","tag-revolvers","tag-smith-wesson","tag-snub-nose"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Evolution of the Smith &amp; Wesson Snub Nose<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"A look at how Smith &amp; Wesson snub nose revolvers have evolved since the 1950&#039;s. 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