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|Bullet Weight||185 Grain|
|Bullet Type||Jacketed Hollow-Point (JHP)|
|Ammo Casing||Nickel-Plated Brass|
|Ammo Caliber||.45 ACP (Auto)|
|Muzzle Velocity (fps)||1140|
|Muzzle Energy (ft lbs)||534|
In order to find out how different self-defense handgun loads perform, we decided to do some ballistics gelatin testing of our own. The chart below is a compilation of expansion and penetration data for Remington 185 gr Golden Saber +P fired from 10 feet, through four layers of fabric (to simulate clothing), using a Kahr CW45 pistol.
The photo slider provides a close-up view of the bullets we recovered from the gelatin, and the video shows this load entering the gel in extreme slow motion.
The diagrams at the bottom of the page can give you an idea of how this load compares to other .45 ACP (Auto) self-defense loads that we tested.
We did a lot more of this ballistic gelatin testing, including over 100 different loads in a variety of calibers, so check out Lucky Gunner Labs for all the details.
|45 ACP +P - 185 gr JHP - Remington Golden Saber- 25 Rounds|
|Bullet Depth (in.)||14.8||15.3||15.7||15.8||16.1|
|Expanded Diameter (in.)||0.74||0.75||0.76||0.76||0.76|
|Bullet Weight after shot (gr.)||184.9||185||185.1||185.1||185.2|
|Bullet Velocity (fps)||981||1009||1018||1043||1045|
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An old cop who used to carry this load in a 5" 1911 years ago told me about this ammo and how it had a 90% one shot stop rate in his dept. I have had several 45s for 15 years or so and have tried about as many different types of ammo as there has been made. This ammo within 30 yrds will really do the damage. In everything I have ever seen, including my own testing, has shown me that this stuff expands violently, and pushes fairly deep. My chrono out of 3 gov't modle 1911s shows an average of 535 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. Not too shabby.
shot this ammo in my full size Sig p320 .45acp and it shoots great. hard hitting ammo. Lucky-Gunner makes it easy to order ammo as I have very little computer skill and found it easy to checkout my order. fast shipping.
Awesome, Consistent Defensive Ammo
I've been a believer in the +P Golden Sabers for many years. I've tried the GS in every caliber I own and stock them in every caliber I own. From my own ballistic testing I prefer the brass jackets on the GS as opposed to the copper jackets on most other defensive ammo. It is less resistant to folding back on itself and retains more of the cutting edges out away from the lead core, where it does the damage I want it to. Let me just put it this way, I wouldn't want one of these twisting into my body spinning at 75-100,000 rpms!
I purchased this ammo based on the ballistics review posted on the Lucky Gunner website. I have only fired 125 rounds but had no failures in my XDS-45. A little more kick than standard pressure ammo but extremely manageable. At 7 - 8 yards I had grouping within a 3" diameter and about the same shooting 3 rounds per series in rapid fire mode. Very pleased with the ammo and the prompt delivery of the product.
Excellent round and value
I bought several boxes of these based on the extensive ammunition test performed by LuckyGunner. The Golden Saber 185+P seemed to be ideal for a short barrel concealed carry pistol. I received these in quicktime and good condition. I fired a box of these in my XD-Mod.2 45acp. They performed well, low flash and accurate enough for my modest pistol skills. They are a bit snappy, but no more than my SR40 that I use for my primary range pistol. I will continue to buy these and more from LG.
Once again, Lucky comes through. Their price,plus shipping, still beats local stores. And the service is unbeatable. Added to a great selection of ammo...you can't beat them. My GS 185's are super...
Great for long range shooting.
I fire these rounds from my two FNH/FNP 45 Tactical Pistols. I use the Trijicon RMR red dot as my primary sighting system. I have no problem hitting man sized silhouette targets at 100 yards from the sitting and standing supported positions. These rounds are incredible...1150 FPS with 534 FT LBS muzzle energy.
Outstanding "all around" ammunition!
Hunting, duty, concealed carry, home defense, or just target practice, this round is well suited for any task. Extremely manageable recoil, excellent ballistics, and great penetration. It is awesome that the folks at Remington can pack this kind of quality in a round for a reasonable price. Do yourself a favor and get some, practice with it, and carry it. Well done Remington.
(Now if their current firearms Mfg. quality would only be like their ammo, I would be truly happy!)
Buy it !!
Great ammo for carry/home defense. With muzzle endergy @ 534 ft/lb the bad guy is going down!! I like the 185gr round due to decreased recoil v. the 230gr. ammo. In my Beretta PX4 Storm, this ammo feels like 9mm. It has never malfunctioned after more than 150 rounds - spaced over 3 months of range time. Dragon's breath muzzle flash.
A world of thanks to all who go in harm's way to defend our way of life against "all enemies, both foreign and domestic". GOD SPEED!
I bought these purely because of a chart I found online listing the "one shot stop" percentages are high (96%) with these cartridges. I've learned these charts can be wrong of course but what else do we have out there to compare defensive rounds? I frequently practice a fast draw head shot, but not with these bullets. I do not feel like emptying out magazine after magazine into a person to get them to stop doing the thing that made me draw on them. One well placed Golden Saber can save the tax payers a preponderance of money.
These are probably as good of a choice as any to meet that task. I should probably practice more with them just to feel what they're like out of my carry piece. Always keep the weapon pointed in a safe direction and shoot first, shoot fast, shoot often.
RIA 6' Longslide Hunter
Bought these to test in my RIA longslide must say the grouped very well at 25yds 1"-1-1/2" ,chronographed a five round string ,high 1,188fps,low 1,115fps extreme spread of 73.31fps ave. velocity of 1,160fps.Should make an excellent hunting round.
super fine ammo
I took my citadel .45, glock 36 , and the xd 45 acp to the range
and had a time trying out this and some other kinds of stuff. This was the only one that all three of them had no problems with. Though I don't normally shoot +p ammo, I had to find out if my guns were up to the task, and if they could handle the power of the load. Now what ever gun I'm going to carry, I know that I can count on the golden saber ammo!
Hot round with smooth consistant recoil. Great for Law Enforcement officials!
I have switched to this round for my every day ammo working in Law Enforcement. I feel very secure with this ammo after shooting a box on qualify day at the range.
Too hot for history?
Remington GS traditionally rates as one of the top defensive loads for a full-sized 1911, so I thought I would try it in my new Colt 1911 Centennial, which was said to tolerate +Ps in moderation. The GS nose is well-rounded, so I anticipated no feeding problems. However, the first magazine experienced one stovepipe and one double feed from a new but well-set Wilson Combat single-stack magazine. A second relay using a different mag of the same type resulted in one double feed. That's two significant (and one minor) stoppages in as many magazines--all with quality pedigrees. The Centennial is soft shooting even with other +Ps, so I believe I was doing my part despite the stovepipe. Bottom-line: my Colt ate several hundred rounds of other ball, JHPs (such as Hydra-Shoks) and Pow R'Ball without a hiccup. It simply does not like Golden Saber. GS probably works well in newer 1911s, but doesn't seem suited to close Browning replicas.
This is the hottest factory loaded .45acp +p ammo i have ever found, including cor-bon, though i have never har the privilege of shooting Underwood or Buffalo Bore, but i'd bet it comes close. A word of caution though, even from a 5" barrel, in low light when it goes bang it makes a ball of fire as big as a volleyball - easily the most muzzle-flash of any ammo i've tried. Now i haven't shot any in a couple of years, so they may have less flash than they used to - i know they have addressed this with the 185gr Bonded Golden Saber, so that may be a thing of the past. During the day it's a non-issue, and this is the most consistent, accurate, and spiciest ammo on the block.
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